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YEAH

sumi

like a button box for games

something like a razer tartarus? (edited)

02:01

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I know what I’m treating myself to next

sumi

the button box is more of interest ill look if theres one i can copy

jus gonna link dump here https://www.masterzen.fr/2018/12/22/handwired-keyboard-build-log-part-2/

02:03

what i suggest u do - learn how QMK works https://qmk.fm/

QMK Firmware - An open source firmware for AVR and ARM based keyboards

An open source firmware for AVR and ARM based keyboards

02:03

its like unreal or unity

02:04

but for makin keyboards

02:04

they already thought of all of the use cases like nkro n shit

02:04

https://github.com/victorlucachi/void16

GitHub - victorlucachi/void16: A 4x4 handwired macropad, running QM...

A 4x4 handwired macropad, running QMK firmware. Contribute to victorlucachi/void16 development by creating an account on GitHub.

tongue

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that looks insane

02:04

lol

02:04

i was thinking more like this

02:04

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https://learn.adafruit.com/using-qmk-on-rp2040-microcontrollers

Using QMK on RP2040 Microcontrollers

Build & Install an Open Source keyboard firmware for RP2040 microcontrollers

02:05

ur in massive luck cuz like last month qmk added support for the pi pico

PepeSipping

ya check that github link you dont have to do a whole ass keyboard

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ill have a better look at this at home cus im clueless rn

tongue

@Uoou-Not-the-egg Remember, it is OK to use GNU software to torture people.

It's also OK to get a patent and threaten everyone's projects containing a GNU license that is only a flashy copy licensing gimmic that supposedly protects you from patents. (But really don't)

03:19

https://patents.stackexchange.com/questions/89/can-software-or-a-block-of-code-under-the-gpl-or-a-similar-license-be-patented

Can software or a block of code under the GPL or a similar license ...

Regarding software, can an application or block of code licensed under the GPL (pre version 3), or a similar license requiring the source to be made available under the terms of the license after

tongue

Why don't manufacturers just make the smaller RAM sticks, and only if you need to put it into desktop computer, include the full-size adapter. (edited)

It's both ways, a tradition and a costs of completely remaking a factory supply lines. You know, if It's profitable, why change anything for the worse, until the population realises what is happening and gives you a little fines in exchange, that might not even affect you. Like Apple.

03:24

Apple could be closed the next day, and it only would make things for the better; in the science and technology fields. (edited)

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03:36

The next most powerful and evil person will be definetly living near some kind of volcano of Mountain Doom that provides him with unlimited geothermic energy to produce anything with a very little cost.

03:36

PepeSadFlower

03:36

And it's not going to be me.

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03:52

I ain't going to be that first person to control volcanoes too

03:52

Pepefole

03:52

Unless

03:52

HmmmThinking

03:54

First gotta go learn CSS grid and python and come back with a realisation that Discourse suddenly started to get updates that might be similar to what I want to do.

03:54

Already has a chat.

03:54

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03:55

Soon to have a sidebar

03:55

Soon to be a discord and a forum hybrid? WHEN

03:55

FrogThink

03:56

Anyways, I'd like to have something more lightweight and simple.

03:56

Than a Discourse.

Uoou-Not-the-egg

It's also OK to get a patent and threaten everyone's projects containing a GNU license that is only a flashy copy licensing gimmic that supposedly protects you from patents. (But really don't)

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11:01

like both of the answers say, i'm pretty sure software is not patentable. (edited)

11:03

or rather, you can only patent wide-ranging ideas like this. https://www.patentlyapple.com/2014/11/a-european-patent-filing-from-apple-describes-voice-controls-destined-for-a-television-and-the-apple-tv-set-top-box.html

11:06

you cannot patent "remote containing microphone using bluetooth low energy with bluez daemon" or something like that

11:09

to be cynical, if you could patent software, you know that assholes like apple and microsoft would have patented everything in their OS. they would patent some really basic shit like cat, less, grep,

11:09

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9952841B2/en

US9952841B2 - Programming system and language for application devel...

In one embodiment, an improved programming system and language for application development is provided that combines elements of the C and Objective-C languages without the constraints imposed by a requirement to maintain compatibility with the C language. The language provides the functionality of the C language compatibility in certain a...

11:10

so really, patent system actually works in your favor in most cases.

i wish i was smart enough to understand this cuz it looks cool but complicated asf

tongue

like both of the answers say, i'm pretty sure software is not patentable. (edited)

Now, I care so little about patents, even if it is possible to still patent a software algorithm. (soonTM, Suggesting that Market Economy and its dlc: Capitalism should be losing powers in patenting even more) Me want things to be: simple, open, free, covering wide range content and standard. Thinking about continuation of using CC0 Public Domain license for software project. All other copy(right) licenses on GitHub like GPL, only cover the programming code and not the resources in the repository: Like 3d objects, designs, sources of images and their manipulation codes, textures etc. A single CC0 Public Domain license seems to cover the whole project and its contents. Also Creative Commons are more standard, their licenses are already used outside the programming projects. (by the art people and universities, documents etc.). (edited)

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14:01

This thing was a given nightmare by other people. But it seems that as you say and as I said: the same patents and trademarks limitations apply to any other copyright license like GPL or MIT. It's simply not mentioned in the Limitations of licenses? (edited)

14:01

FrogThink

tongue

like both of the answers say, i'm pretty sure software is not patentable. (edited)

I've red Stallman's things on patents, yesterday, and I'm still not sure. I just hope that things changed that much since the Stallman's times. (edited)

14:05

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/software-patents.en.html

Sticker

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14:16

Alright I'm so confused. But my inner gut feeling says that GPL and MIT Licensed stuff have the same problems. (edited)

14:17

https://tldrlegal.com/license/creative-commons-cc0-1.0-universal

Uoou-Not-the-egg

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I've read yesterday about the Stallman's legal loophole to try to prevent this, but I do not feel like It's something real and something that would work in a court.

14:19

Anyways

14:19

I'm very chaotic today.

Uoou-Not-the-egg

https://tldrlegal.com/license/creative-commons-cc0-1.0-universal

Main question is: can I use CC0 over the GPL and MIT licenses. Without scaring away everyone over the patents and trademarks. Pros of the CC0: 1. Applies to images and videos, sounds, music, 3d models and so on... not only the code and documentation. 2. Used by people outside Software Development field. 3. Public Domain. (edited)

14:28

4. Public Domain. I want public domain. PUbLiC DoMAin iS So COOL

14:29

NOOOOO

14:29

Don't ask why, having no thoughts in my head, it's a morning.

14:31

I just don't want to see GPT or Stallman in my life, every time I open my project.

14:31

Same applies to MIT.

14:31

I'm not even a MIT student.

14:32

Why should I use their licenses.

14:34

I'm a public domain person, I want my things to be public, open and free for everyone.

14:37

But even then, CC0 makes me a creative commons person

14:37

Which I think is better for me.

Uoou-Not-the-egg

Main question is: can I use CC0 over the GPL and MIT licenses. Without scaring away everyone over the patents and trademarks. Pros of the CC0: 1. Applies to images and videos, sounds, music, 3d models and so on... not only the code and documentation. 2. Used by people outside Software Development field. 3. Public Domain. (edited)

Oh an just to be clear: Cons: Some scary patents and trademarks limitations which probably exist with GPL and MIT too, but are never mentioned due some small gimmics that do not work in a real world or a real court.

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15:36

managed to figure out how to build the tamagotchi emulator

ApuMusic

15:49

Thats very epic

something is happening. not sure what

16:32

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16:32

oh, i think it took a poop.

16:33

should probably go study the rules of the game first

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17:21

Made a module Installer for the Bannerlord

17:22

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17:22

An absolute madlad.

17:23

A single click will list the modules in the Downloads folder and extract them into Modules folder of Bannerlord.

17:24

Going to GitHub to make a gist before I delete everything on my computer.

17:24

NOOO

17:29

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17:29

Here we go

17:33

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17:33

Kinda proud

17:33

LainDance

17:34

Especially when yesterday I really thought I will never do this. I did it in a little bit more than an hour.

17:35

Sure I refused to support .7z archives.

17:36

I could do that if I wanted, but I simply think that anyone that put modules into .7z archives are insane.

17:37

Also requires 7za.exe to be downloaded for the extraction to be possible.

17:37

Or included along the script.

17:37

Which I will not do.

17:37

In the 2015 I probably came up with a script that can self extract a file.

17:38

Purely batch file that can hold other files and extract from itself.

17:38

SIMPLY genius.

17:39

But I'm not sure where it all is and I'm really already feeling bad for using Batch scripting language. (edited)

17:39

This thing should die.

17:39

As well as the Bash of the Linux.

17:40

Saying that as a Batch lord and a Bash lord.

17:42

Alright this one was the last project for Bannerlord.

17:43

No more coding for Bannelord.

17:43

Gotta preserve myself.

18:05

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18:05

>be me >supporting users >they can't login >my program is calling some other indian company's api

18:05

6 levels of nested if

18:05

18:06

>they don't know how to setup remote access and can't give me the source code

18:06

>trying to debug this insane shit over zoom

revolverGun

emojithonkhai

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Uoou-Not-the-egg

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Sticker

18:12

Godot was always the only choice

18:12

Use Godot.

18:12

https://godotengine.org/

Free and open source 2D and 3D game engine

Godot provides a huge set of common tools, so you can just focus on making your game without reinventing the wheel.

Sticker

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18:18

My fkn god she looks tired af

18:18

Haiyahh

she has pimples on her forehead, her hair is messy, it is late in the day, she is using apple magic keyboard, and she wants to die inside

18:19

#justgirlythings

The experience with installing mods for Bannelord is now painless. (If they are compatible with the Bannerlord version and distributed via a .zip archive)

19:38

>Download the mod. >Double-click and you have the mod in your bannelord. >Double-click and you backup your save files. >Launch and select the mod, play the game. (edited)

19:38

Soo good.

19:39

I love myself.

19:40

good job, egg.

Hmmge

19:41

Althought perfect, a side-project nonetheless.

19:41

The real project is making the interpreter or a compiler that is better than Batch and Bash languages combined.

19:42

And whatever the current alternatives are.

19:43

I remember doing research on the alternatives, and they were smelling life fish.

19:43

https://fishshell.com/

A smart and user-friendly command line shell

19:44

Even The C shell (CSH)

19:44

Looks pretty fishy.

19:44

Don't want to see a rust shell.

19:45

In my entire life.

19:45

But it will happen.

19:49

Sticker

21:39

When you are writing a simple USB formating, .iso loading tool to escape the Windows one day in an automated way.

(edited)

21:39

The cringemeter is over the top with this one.

https://sfconservancy.org/GiveUpGitHub/#conservancyfooter

Give Up GitHub - Software Freedom Conservancy

The Software Freedom Conservancy provides a non-profit home and services to Free, Libre and Open Source Software (FLOSS) projects.

21:58

https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/30/software_freedom_conservancy_quits_github/

Open source body quits GitHub, urges you to do the same

Paid-for Copilot trained on FOSS code final straw for Software Freedom Conservancy

Uoou-Not-the-egg

https://sfconservancy.org/GiveUpGitHub/#conservancyfooter

The alternatives are the same I've suggested or had in mind.

22:03

But really, we need to give up the git itself and come up with something better and more elegant.

22:03

Chewing more bubble gums

22:04

Yeah, I've bought one bubble pack for the whole 4 days to survive.

22:04

Impossible.

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22:12

This is not even the ifunny memes

22:12

SleepyCatBoi

$ node --experimental-repl-await
Welcome to Node.js v12.19.0.
Type ".help" for more information.
> const delay = ms => new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, ms))
undefined
> const f = async () => { await delay(1000); console.log("hello world"); }
undefined
> f();
Promise { <pending> }
... 1 second later
> hello world

23:36

async and await, in a nutshell

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01:17

Woah a button to report a raid.

01:17

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01:22

KomiGun

FrogWave

01:22

Probably won't do much

i noticed that the other day too

01:26

it would be cool if the discord police showed up when u submit

01:26

HmmmThinking

sumi

it would be cool if the discord police showed up when u submit

Yeah but it would reduce that cave feeling of a trap house. With all the police roaming around the precious sumi's undercover server.

01:35

HmmmThinking

true better to keep it on the down low

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03:02

Well if I had such as great health, I would try to pull up such a fiat. (edited)

fiat more like fix it again tony hehehe

Haiyahh

13:52

Oh yeah

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RfWGJS7rckk

Best Programming Language | John Carmack and Lex Fridman

18:34

Python, C++.

18:35

For me I think it's still better to go with D language and complete the combination of everything.

18:35

Even if it's a complete pain currently.

@tongue

20:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR-f4b0G9lo

How To Pronounce JSON by Douglas Crockford

20:11

Jizzmo

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7448_stressedSmoking

upgrading fedora

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libraw

Got installed two heatpumps into rooms.

21:01

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21:01

Yeah, it does work well, but at what cost.

21:02

On the other hand were there any choice? (edited)

21:02

With the gas supply canceled by the russians.

21:02

Pepefole

Pepefole

Baltic states of eggland

21:13

Sticker

Cambridge University wrote back

21:26

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pepewicked

The Lithuanian resource you link to would generally be called a thesaurus by English speakers.

We offer a thesaurus, although it is arranged in a slightly different way to make it more accessible to learners; it consists of articles that provide in-depth explanations of the differences between English words and phrases that express similar meanings.

Unlike in the Lithuanian systemic dictionary, users navigate the thesaurus by browsing synonyms, antonyms, or articles, rather than by locating them in a semantic structure.

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21:49

just done upgrading fedora HmmmThinking

HmmmThinking

that was surprisingly smooth

21:49

skipped 3 major versions from 33 to 36

tongue

just done upgrading fedora HmmmThinking

HmmmThinking

that was surprisingly smooth

Why would you not use Linux Mint

21:54

Uoou-Not-the-egg

Why would you not use Linux Mint

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22:10

Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu and then Ubuntu is based on Debian Unstable according to askubuntu.com

22:11

why would you use linux mint.

maybe its like having an unstable gf

22:12

its a bad idea but you love it at the same time

tongue

why would you use linux mint.

They try to disable things from Ubuntu garbage and leave the more working things.

22:12

There is no snap enforcement by default.

sumi

its a bad idea but you love it at the same time

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Uoou-Not-the-egg

They try to disable things from Ubuntu garbage and leave the more working things.

i used linux mint a long time ago around 2012-2013, and the only way i could tolerate it was with linux mint debian edition https://linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php

Download LMDE 5 - Linux Mint

Linux Mint is an elegant, easy to use, up to date and comfortable desktop operating system.

Alright, why not use Debian instead of Fedora.

i only know fedora from this one video

22:15

https://youtu.be/g5d0dfq_Ew8

ExplainingComputers

Fedora 36: Leading Edge Linux Distro

22:15

8:36 is reason i wouldn't try it

22:16

PepeSipping

sumi

8:36 is reason i wouldn't try it

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I remember being overwhelmed by Fedora being Ubuntu that simply for no reason changed the stuff in the same way and also removed the basic things, along with the garbage of Ubuntu.

22:20

RPM Package Manager

22:20

Why would you do this

22:21

What it does better than the garbage deb

22:21

The name itself is complete nonsense RPM

tongue

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pepepog

What does it stand for

22:21

It stands for RiggedPackageManager

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sumi

8:36 is reason i wouldn't try it

GNOME is a complete shitshow (https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gnome-40.html) and they need new blood so much every year they go to Google Summer of Code to try to get uni students to help out and the only people who work on it are mexican and brazillian students (bless their hearts) (edited)

Useless peice of shet

22:22

The person had a tumor in his head to replace package manager for no good reason, and it's not even better.

22:23

This is where all the judgement comes from.

22:23

Dumb people that never touched a monolith.

22:23

Uoou-Not-the-egg

I remember being overwhelmed by Fedora being Ubuntu that simply for no reason changed the stuff in the same way and also removed the basic things, along with the garbage of Ubuntu.

what basic things did you want but which were removed Hmmge

Hmmge

Uoou-Not-the-egg

Alright, why not use Debian instead of Fedora.

debian stable version is way too old

22:25

debian stable version is still on python 3.6 when python 3.10 is out

egg

22:26

I ain't even debating anymore.

and there are only 3 versions

22:26

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22:26

stable testing unstable

22:26

and if you go to the IRC to ask help with testing, they will raise their hands and say

22:26

HmmmFukU

I will never use Fedora, unless some magical elephant will come and fix their train of thought. But even then, I'm not a fan of magical elepahnts.

22:27

LainDance

did fedora break into your house and steal your Juoda Duona?

22:28

egg

22:28

i mean no rly what is your bad experience with fedora

tongue

did fedora break into your house and steal your Juoda Duona?

That's how it feels after I Install it every other year to check it out.

i have had so many bad experiences with ubuntu, i would take a fortnight to type it out all (edited)

22:28

in fact, i was mainly using Xubuntu, up until 2018, as i ranted before in sumi server (but that is lost to the ages)

Then I delete it and use Windows 10 or ubuntu previously, now it seems Ubuntu becomes unbearable with their snaps, so it's a Mint at best.

well, i can agree that mint is better than stock ubuntu.

tongue

i mean no rly what is your bad experience with fedora

I think I've shared a good amount in the previous sumi server.

22:30

ain't repeating myself, wish it was saved tho

22:31

That's why I use Github Readmes and filesystem to take notes for now, until it all changes.

Uoou-Not-the-egg

ain't repeating myself, wish it was saved tho

7448_stressedSmoking

22:31

such is life

22:32

when you have the perfect argument but discord server got deleted, so you have no notes to refer to during your debate

tongue

when you have the perfect argument but discord server got deleted, so you have no notes to refer to during your debate

Literally feeling pain

well my main gripe, with ubuntu (and debian), is that all the packages are too old, and you cannot really install them incrementally, this especially sucks for obscure hardware, as an example So if you really really want a new version of any software quickly, you almost always have to compile from source, and make install, and after that you will have to use the apt-get pinning, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto, to make sure that your dependencies don't upgrade, or else you will run into dependency hell The "solution" is PPAs which are maintained by individual users. The longer you are using "stable" or "LTS" version the more packages will be held back in this way, and when you upgrade, it will be like a ticking time bomb. In fedora, the default one is the up-to-date one (my kernel is only a few weeks old, 5.18 whereas master is 5.19), and if I want to downgrade because it sucks, then i downgrade with dnf downgrade

22:55

in 2013 i was using a shitty thinkpad with some realtek wifi card (8723be)

22:55

the askubuntu forums (even back then) were basically saying to install some random person's PPA

22:56

because you couldn't build latest driver against the kernel source which was 3.19 at the same but it expected 4+ for whatever reason

22:56

https://askubuntu.com/questions/847392/wlan-rtl8723be-frequently-disconnects

22:56

in fedora? https://ask.fedoraproject.org/t/rtl8723be-does-not-work-or-weak-signal/448/2

22:56

just git clone, dkms install be 100% sure that you won't run into dependency hell because everything is up to date, and reboot. (edited)

22:57

Also contrary to popular opinion you can install nvidia driver in fedora from GUI

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22:58

the outdated packages problem is really what led me to change distros, i tried to upgrade from 18.04 LTS to 20.04 (on time, not even skipping a version), and i broke literally everything, including 2D acceleration.

22:58

So whenever i moved my mouse CPU would go to 100%.

23:00

i tried to fix it by reinstalling Xorg, and in the process uninstalled like half the OS, lol.

23:01

Then i tried to reinstall gnome, but NetworkManager got messed up, again, and bluetooth was broken (i don't know if it was just the UI or bluez).

23:03

The rest of my gripes are all towards GNOME, as i mentioned even in my ubuntu days i never once used GNOME 3+, it was always xfce or lxde or cinnamon with mint (edited)

23:04

so i won't blame ubuntu for unity or gnome

23:05

but i must mention one thing, K/X ubuntu is sort of its own separate thing, than fedora KDE spin.

23:06

If you ask about xubuntu things in #ubuntu channel, they will get all high up on their horse and ask you to go to #xubuntu channel. Maybe it's because there are too many package differences or something. (edited)

Uoou-Not-the-egg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR-f4b0G9lo

/ʒə sɔ̃/

Uoou-Not-the-egg

Cambridge University wrote back

are you happy with cambridge university's response?

23:18

tongue

are you happy with cambridge university's response?

00:31

Also a heat pump reveal

00:32

One costs around 1k of euros.

looks futuristic

sumi

looks futuristic

Haiyahh

That's part of my free pc setup

00:34

Now all I need is a little bit of job to sustain living.

00:34

And I can research things till the end of times.

00:35

But actually I'll have to leave this place, since the people here are unbearable sometimes.

00:36

I'm just hoping that the norther europe is more advanced than Lithuania.

00:36

Or we might be Gendalfs of the Europe.

00:36

A perfect place for gendalfs to reside in the future.

00:37

Smollish country with lots of greens and a need for Mosquitoes genocide.

00:37

The place would be perfect after that.

00:38

Maybe even better than Japan and its Tokyo.

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