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OkIPullUp

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Source: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Housing_price_statistics_-_house_price_index

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I'm not sure if I'd like to own a house, I'm already having issues with keeping my room nice enough.

15:37

Keeping the whole house running takes lots of effort.

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Might even overtake one's life.

get a house husband

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might need to get a few sugar daddies

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hustlin

Every time I read a word "Tuple", a few hundred brain cells leave me for vacation.

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Was it so hard to just name it a collection which is ordered and unchangeable.

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A daily task of googling tuple's etymology.

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^^^ This is what comes to my mind every time I read a word tuple.

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TULIPS

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Tulpės - In Lithuanian language.

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This is what happens when people without a common sense make a language.

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Destroys the learning curve with their obscure words found in some silly research papers or silly scientific community.

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Waiting

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Waiting for Systemic English Dictionary to be finally applied in science.

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The word Tuple, when pronounced - sounds so bad, it completely ruined my whole day.

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TBH this might be the next project of the Python language architects.

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SO LITTLE BRAIN

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So much time.

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- The Python Architects

when you have more time than brain

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chocke

chocke

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LainMimis

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This makes my brain explode, I need to learn English grammar more to become more efficient at taking care of this kind of nonsense.

i'm not going to memorize these definitions, it's a waste of time

16:29

same people use the same words to mean different things

tongue

i'm not going to memorize these definitions, it's a waste of time

I've visualised these two definitions and they are completely the same.

lol

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is this still referring to python

tongue

is this still referring to python

Yes it is referring to python, the quality of articles are dumbing down.

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there is only one thing i would add. when type hinting, you can do Tuple[int, float, str] , but at best you can only do List[Union[int, float, str]]. so number of arguments matters more in tuple than in list (edited)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_type

In programming languages and type theory, a product of types is another, compounded, type in a structure. The "operands" of the product are types, and the structure of a product type is determined by the fixed order of the operands in the product. An instance of a product type retains the fixed order, but otherwise may contain all possible insta...

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in cOmPuTer Science they call tuples some other different shit, lol.

Uoou-Not-the-egg

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Me visualising the definitions once again to confirm that that they used different words to mean the same thing. To sound smarter or to look like a work is being done.

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where did you find this

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OhGodWhy

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post link

tongue

where did you find this

I've made this

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Just now

PopukoPained

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In paint

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PopukoPained

i mean this one

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tongue

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https://www.educative.io/answers/list-vs-tuple-vs-set-vs-dictionary-in-python

List vs. tuple vs. set vs. dictionary in Python

Contributor: MADHU SRAVANA VALLI

"collection of ordered data" vs "ordered collection of data"

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Fuiyohhh

chocke

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Imagine you take a course called "How to teach online" (less than 1 month) and you start teaching Python (edited)

tongue

Imagine you take a course called "How to teach online" (less than 1 month) and you start teaching Python (edited)

That's exactly how it feels, I just couldn't read it more after the definitions were so time wasting.

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At very least the content is under some CC license.

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You can't edit it to improve, but it's at least something.

16:57

On a similar theme. What I really liked about Mozilla MDN Web Docs is that my contributions were accepted.

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But that does not mean Firefox is a browser I would ever use again.

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Also I remember I've got banned on their bug reporting stuff.

Flushed_sunglasses

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Some 4 years or more ago.

bugzilla? wtf

chocke

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wat did u do

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post capybara?

I'm not sure, It was so long time ago, all I can remember is emotions that the place was really not good.

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Not something where I would like to contribute.

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Since then I've just completely buried Firefox in my mind.

on a side note, do you have a good .epub reader

And said "I'm done with Firefox, it's a horrible browser with horrible people around it."

where i can scroll 2 pages at the same time (edited)

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apple books is giving me brain cancer, because i do not know where i am in the book

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and i cannot see the table of contents while i am reading

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and scrollwheel does not work

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and apple is a fucking asshole

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tim cook more like

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dim cock

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i pressed "ok" on some shit then it auto-charged me usd 19.90

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maybe i need to use that pandoc thing, to convert .epub to .pdf

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but, the diagrams might be all fucked up

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let's give it a try

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yes, asking rhetorical questions is my expertise.

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you don't have to answer don't worry

tongue

on a side note, do you have a good .epub reader

I'm still a .pdf person and use Google Chrome as a reader. I went on a quest to find epub reader and a better pdf reader. All I remember is some foxit reader which is not really for reading, and more editing maybe. Also it has this thing called "FREE TRIAL" which means I'll never use it unless it's very critical editing need. So no, I do not think I have ever found anything good. I remember using the default Gnome PDF reader on Linux for everything. (edited)

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I simply avoid .epub (edited)

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If I remember correctly it's more open format than Adobe's .pdf

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But still, if I can't have a good experience, I'll stay with something that at least somehow works.

I remember using the default Gnome PDF reader on Linux for everything.

I think the same too. PDF does suck, but .epub or worse, .mobi sucks even more, because they stick too hard to "two page book, flip page from right to left" way of reading. (edited)

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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19939369

AdmiralAsshat

Suggestion: Release your book as an EPUB rather than a PDF. PDF has the reputation of being view-able "everywhere", but it's not exactly pleasant to read on anything other than a computer screen or a large tablet.EPUB's, however, can dynamically reflow the text and resize the font to be readable on your phone, your Kindle, your PC, etc. And the...

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And layout engine is even worse than PDF, because there is no fixed document size. So it becomes like those early days of websites which were not designed to handle phone-sized screens.

fixed document size is great, you can always be sure to find the thing in the exact same spot. While on epub, the text is like liquid by default. It's great for casual readings. For everything else, it's additional anxiety and stress.

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Well you can mark things and reference on epub, but it's still not the same.

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It's better to just develop standard reading devices and use these reading devices, instead of trying to squeeze a text-book into your wrist watch.

https://www.howtogeek.com/119127/use-the-magic-sysrq-key-on-linux-to-fix-frozen-x-servers-cleanly-reboot-and-run-other-low-level-commands/?fbclid=IwAR2o7fQivFqpcky1kwl1cZPPKDMoRvAXkECkwnsQqsh6Dyak6R8gPopYUx4

On Linux, the magic SysRq key can send commands directly to the Linux kernel. You can use it to recover from freezes or cleanly restart your system, even if nothing appears to be responding.

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Woah, never tried the SysRq button

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Fuiyohhh

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Maybe it's a cool button.

interesting

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if x server crashed i would always try ctrl-alt-f1 to get into tty

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fuck, i might have to start using JWT (json web token)

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if i understood the problem i'm facing correctly

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The war on information continues

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The first one seems to be false one and is in the footer part of w3school.

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People haven't red a single specification in their life and without ability to understand and test the things they write.

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https://www.w3schools.com/python/python_tuples.asp#:~:text=which%20is%20unordered%2C-,unchangeable*,-%2C%20and%20unindexed.%20No (edited)

W3Schools offers free online tutorials, references and exercises in all the major languages of the web. Covering popular subjects like HTML, CSS, JavaScript, Python, SQL, Java, and many, many more.

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Ahh alright there is a note.

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It's a very slipperly thing. (edited)

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Was about to lose respect for w3schools.

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Set is not an unchangeable, you can remove items and add items. it's the Set item's content that is unchangeable.

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Haven't tested, too tired fighting with the kinds of things right now. MAYBE I WOULD HAVE TESTED THINGS, if I didn't have to wage a war on information.

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It's annoying that we have to be the first generation to take everyone from the dark ages of computing and Market Economy: Capitalism into a Futuristic Utopia thing that people see on TV.

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The guy do be having energy efficient models for transportation and living.

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in the alternate reality this is the coolest thing:

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https://www.bigworldsmallsasha.com/2019/09/13/why-i-left-the-venus-project/

Why I Left the Venus Project

Personal Story When I was a kid, my father took my brother and me to places like Tunisia, Morocco and Mexico, where we saw other kids living on the streets and begging for money, or begging us tourists to buy bananas or souvenirs. I noticed homeless people everywhere, from Moscow to New York, to almost …

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https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/The_Venus_Project

The Venus Project

The Venus Project is a communist cult that promotes architect Jacque Fresco's vision of the future, which involves an economic structure known as a "resource-based economy." Basically it's stock-standard central planning, except with computers!

I know, I've red it all some years ago.

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He does spill some weird things from time to time, where it's outside his field.

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<The author of TVP>

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Aka Jacque Fresco

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But I like his attempt at this first part, before he goes on a rant

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re-rendering things

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Hol up I'll provide a cleaner cut

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This is Karl Marx.

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Karl Marx probably has ADHD.

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.. in communist society, where nobody has one exclusive sphere of activity but each can become accomplished in any branch he wishes, society regulates the general production and thus makes it possible for me to do one thing today and another tomorrow, to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticize after dinner, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, shepherd or critic.

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Karl Marx thinks he can do everything in the world, "one thing today and another tomorrow". Or even many things in one day. (edited)

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I love how TVP jumps straight to "resource-based economy" without even framing it as a "resource distribution problem" like marxism-leninism does.

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I think it is completely counterproductive to achieve perfect resource distribution. There will always be somebody, who is lucky enough to born on top of a pile of gold. Or oil. Or just born with high IQ.

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so i think labor commodification is a good thing, and i want to acknowledge that it exists marxist post-scarcity "endgame" is an unattainable ideal, you will always have some sort of "class conflict", either by simply being born near a resource or heck having the "fortune" of your parents passing down the family trade to you, thus creating a "class" not everything has to be militant class conflict i have better things to do than to wait for the endgame to be achieved when i pay a plumber to unclog my toilet or the hairdresser to cut my hair

EHHHHHH

Fuiyohhh

So far in my whole life the only two answers i've seen to "We can deal without money" are 1. already achieved Star-Trek style civilization (post-scarcity with robots) 2. barter system (edited)

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and both of those will lead to hunger

You do understand that I've probably debunked all of these things and it just all looks so silly to read.

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I know. But I just want to tell you, Karl Marx had ADHD

It makes my breath to suspense from reading all this all over again

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But I know that it's all needed until every single person on earth will finally understand how the economy works.

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and have understanding of the current economy definition adn the actual definition of economy.

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https://growingsmallfarms.ces.ncsu.edu/growingsmallfarms-csaguide/

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ahh, yes. Subscription vegetables... wonder why i didn't think of that earlier

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Veggies Nitro™️

I mean if you really want to run away from the nonsenses about communism, resources control stuff and more

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You just have to read

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The New Human Rights Movement: Reinventing the Economy to End Oppression

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That's really all I have to say, like twice or trice to let it all sink it.

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And hope that someone will have time to write a debunking article on every single thing in relation.

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RatYeehaw

bounce

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-gold

E-gold was a digital gold currency operated by Gold & Silver Reserve Inc. (G&SR) under e-gold Ltd. that allowed users to open an account on their web site denominated in grams of gold (or other precious metals) and the ability to make instant transfers of value ("spends") to other e-gold accounts. The e-gold system was launched online in 1996 an...

i did that

tongue

ahh, yes. Subscription vegetables... wonder why i didn't think of that earlier

I know, but I like some of their contents

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like that one

that looks like screenshot from C&C.

tongue

that looks like screenshot from C&C.

That's exactly what I thought. But it seem to be somehow true.

tongue

that looks like screenshot from C&C.

3DExhausted

3DExhausted

Egg hello

Fuiyohhh

hihi

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jul/24/chess-robot-grabs-and-breaks-finger-of-seven-year-old-opponent-moscow

Chess robot grabs and breaks finger of seven-year-old opponent

Moscow incident occurred because child ‘violated’ safety rules by taking turn too quickly, says official

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"the robot grabbed and broke his finger" "This is of course bad."

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Maybe it could try grabbing something else

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Fuiyohhh

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I wanna slap this clement asshole.

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Wasting my time with ads everywhere.

tongue

Wasting my time with ads everywhere.

That's a no worries, he left the AlgoExpert a year ago, this is only his shadow of the past that roams around the Youtube ads section.

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Fuiyohhh

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Carl Quit Cheefin

Terry Davis - Write in C

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I agree, I want to write in c after some experience with d

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But then, write something better than C

Neither Windows nor Linux do have ability to connect the directories. I have an old Dowloads folder of the previous account. And I need that its contents were available in the Downloads folder of the current user. I do not want to merge the folders and make a mess. I just want old downloads to be accessible by a Video Editor Projects files.

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One more reason to start a completely new operating system from scratch.

Uoou-Not-the-egg

Neither Windows nor Linux do have ability to connect the directories. I have an old Dowloads folder of the previous account. And I need that its contents were available in the Downloads folder of the current user. I do not want to merge the folders and make a mess. I just want old downloads to be accessible by a Video Editor Projects files.

use symlink? symlink old downloads into "subfolder" under new downloads (edited)

tongue

use symlink? symlink old downloads into "subfolder" under new downloads (edited)

Requires a script that keeps track of every single file.

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Or as you suggest, only a subfolder would work, but it does not solve anything.

01:50

I'll have to relink every project's file into that subfolder. (edited)

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I've googled enough on symlinks.

01:50

I've had experience with them before.

hmm, why do you need all the "old downloads" files to just appear as if it was merged under "new downloads"?

01:51

yes, i'm sure you tried, but sometimes we can improve upon the obvious

tongue

hmm, why do you need all the "old downloads" files to just appear as if it was merged under "new downloads"?

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Well this is why

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I do not want to relink every single file.

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on every project I ever made.

oh, you had the project file which is pointing to absolute path.

01:52

Yeah, got screwed that way before with adobe premiere pro. i feel you

Olive is still in Alpha, so there is absolutely no functionality to deal with this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_mount

In computer operating systems, union mounting is a way of combining multiple directories into one that appears to contain their combined contents. Union mounting is supported in Linux, BSD and several of its successors, and Plan 9, with similar but subtly different behavior. As an example application of union mounting, consider the need to updat...

I'm on Windows

i think this is "technically what you want to do", but it seems like too much of a pain in the ass

01:56

https://superuser.com/questions/1171603/how-to-mount-two-separate-folder-locations-to-one

tongue

i think this is "technically what you want to do", but it seems like too much of a pain in the ass

That's why we want make an operating system, so it won't be a pain

01:57

And things would be clear.

https://github.com/nkzxw/winunionfs

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Automatically exported from code.google.com/p/winunionfs - GitHub - nkzxw/winunionfs: Automatically exported from code.google.com/p/winunionfs

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allow a windows user to see in a single directory hierarchy files from multiple directory hierarchies. Furthermore, when a user changes or creates a file in this directory hierarchy, the changes are not necessarily recorded in the same directory hierarchy, as the original file or containing directory

01:59

well, interesting food for thought. i think this will be my next c++ programming project...

Who knows how it is implemented.

01:59

But it's from code.google.com/p/winunionfs

01:59

so it's pretty cool, if we to trust the README words.

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But also it's not compiled into binary, a pure source code.

https://code.google.com/archive/p/winunionfs/wikis/UsageExperience.wiki

Ain't installing Visual Studio to break my Windows 10 like the other 15 times before.

if you trust me, i will compile for you now, lol. i always have all the environments ready to go at a moment's notice (edited)

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Fuiyohhh

tongue

if you trust me, i will compile for you now, lol. i always have all the environments ready to go at a moment's notice (edited)

Like you have nothing better to do.

02:01

Fuiyohhh

02:02

I'll be alright, I'll try to write to the Olive developer, it's better to short this thing in the project itself.

02:03

At least give a notice, but I'm sure he is already aware of it.

Uoou-Not-the-egg

Like you have nothing better to do.

i can't concentrate for 12 hours on my silly programming goose chases. talking to you is fun

Uoou-Not-the-egg

Like you have nothing better to do.

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I figured it out.

Uoou-Not-the-egg

I'll be alright, I'll try to write to the Olive developer, it's better to short this thing in the project itself.

4.06 MB

02:33

here you go, compiled version

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https://github.com/dokan-dev/dokany/releases/tag/v0.7.4

02:33

depends on dokan library command line is WinUnionFS.exe /w D:\sample_folder_1 /r C:\cmder_mini /l P (edited)

SleepyCatBoi

I mean you know that I have already taken all the risks of a barely Alpha software. ..But now since you posted even the command line example

apparently found this more modern solution, but no guide whatsover https://github.com/winfsp/winfsp/issues/150

tongue

apparently found this more modern solution, but no guide whatsover https://github.com/winfsp/winfsp/issues/150

The gif is so cool.

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I just hope that's how it works

02:43

there seems to be some wonkiness with permissions

02:43

And that's why it's better to not use such software.

02:43

Things are too risky.

02:43

But thanks for the research

https://blogtailieublog.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/apprenticeship-patterns-guidance-for-the-aspiring-software-craftsman.pdf

12:27

finding this book sort of useful

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tongue

finding this book sort of useful

Not something you would cut your hand off, it feels like some youtuber's diary.

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SleepyCatBoi

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Uoou-Not-the-egg

Not something you would cut your hand off, it feels like some youtuber's diary.

it's a book of fiction like aesop's fables

17:59

it's useful as a bedtime story (edited)

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SleepyCatBoi

@Uoou-Not-the-egg You have heard of React

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Now get ready for...

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https://www.reactivemanifesto.org/

PepeSadFlower

00:57

So many words, so little efficiency in explaining things.

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PepeSadFlower

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Netty

01:01

what a word

echoes your netty

offers you a methé before your netthé

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I'm so done; prototyping things with CSS grid and Fleboxyys (edited)

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I mean how bad it has to be that you start doing CSS stuff just to calm yourself down.

02:01

It's a meditation time.

02:03

I think I'll stop using <div> tags since internet explorer is no longer a thing

02:04

I just make my own tags. But then the styling still will require some class attributes.

02:04

To make an easy theming possible.

Uoou-Not-the-egg

I just make my own tags. But then the styling still will require some class attributes.

https://styled-components.com/

styled-components

Visual primitives for the component age. Use the best bits of ES6 and CSS to style your apps without stress

ApuMusic

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in react (

) world we use this.

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https://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_semantic_elements.asp

W3Schools offers free online tutorials, references and exercises in all the major languages of the web. Covering popular subjects like HTML, CSS, JavaScript, Python, SQL, Java, and many, many more.

02:07

also in theory you are not supposed to use <div> everywhere.

02:07

you should use each of the following carefully

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<article>
<aside>
<details>
<figcaption>
<figure>
<footer>
<header>
<main>
<mark>
<nav>
<section>
<summary>
<time>

02:07

however i literally saw no one adhering to this convention.

I always 1. use the pure technologies or 2. a very lightweight library done by some caring person. Haven't done the second thing yet.

tongue

also in theory you are not supposed to use <div> everywhere.

Remember I'm a hardcore HTML and CSS professional that forgot it all. But still have senses of all these things and made some experiments that never saved sadly. No idea where all my golden stuff goes.

02:10

I never have anything that is valuable at any time when I need. So I have to start it all from scratch.

everything changes so much, i remember when people were still advising to use float: left; position: relative; left: 50%; and now it's display: flex; align-items: center

02:12

i just hold off learning new things until the very last minute, to save my energy

02:12

SleepyCatBoi

02:13

no point in learning something that will totally change and break your mental model, then you will be confused between old and new way of doing things

02:13

which is worse than learning from scratch

I've been using flexbox before it was even a thing. Searched for alternatives, since I really didn't like how layouts were done. And I still do not like, nothing is simple as should be. (edited)

tongue

everything changes so much, i remember when people were still advising to use float: left; position: relative; left: 50%; and now it's display: flex; align-items: center

I remember these things too

tongue

no point in learning something that will totally change and break your mental model, then you will be confused between old and new way of doing things

I think flexbox and grid should be redone completely. I think I've red all the things about 'em

02:16

I remember watching this

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https://www.youtube.com/c/LayoutLand

Learn what's now possible in graphic design on the web — layout, CSS Grid, and more. A series for web designers and developers, created by Jen Simmons.

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